I might be in the market for a new gaming rig very shortly, pending the sale of my car. Although my current rig is quite 'reasonable', the CPU (Intel i7 960) is getting on for 6 years old and the GPU (HD5970) is also a bit dated, and I just can't get on with AMD for some reason. So with a spending limit of no more that £1,000 what do you guys think would be the best options? The CPU and GPU must be Intel & nVidia. Motherboard etc I'm not too clued up with so I'm open to suggestions. I've never built my own PC before and with an outlay of that kind of cash I'd rather not screw things up, so I'd prefer a ready built rig.
After a quick shifty on ebay I found THIS I have a Gigabyte mobo ATM and have never had a problem with it in 6 years, so this is looking good so far.
Building your own is not a hard task, it's much like a jigsaw as the parts will only go in one place and in one orientation. Warrenties are the same for home builds as much as pre-made computers (about three years for most parts).
I will make a list on what you could buy if you do it yourself. A very nice build can be had for that sort of cash.
I recently bought a decent 750W PSU which I could re-use and I got 16GB DDR3 RAM last year which could also be recycled. 1TG hard drive also has never given me problems but don't know enough about SSD's to know whether they're worth it ATM. OH, and of course I have a case but could probably do with more cooling.
SSD is definitely a must have imo (you only truely realize it once you tried one).. 120gb will be easily enough for windows and some random apps. I moved "my documents" folder to a different location since it tends to take a lot of space. I have a Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H, 4770k and geforce gtx 770 and couldn´t be happier with my choices. This rig will last for very very long with just gfx card upgrades.
In total agreement with Jarkko about SSD, they blow your mind when it comes to windows start up times. The one HUGE downside with them is that when they die everything on them is gone forever, so never store those pictures you want to keep. A HDD is a good work horse and are nearly indestructible, even if they start knocking and whining you can still save the data. If you have enough RAM then you can start using RAM drives instead of paging files and such blah blah blah.
If you put up a list of what you have then we can help spend your money . I am a fan of AMD CPU's but do not use their GPU's, I'm not a fan of Gigabyte hardware but do like Asus. It's all in what you are happy with and no matter who manufactures it there is always the chance of it going wrong as the computer hardware we use now is like a high performance sports cars, and as such they all have the chance to go very wrong very quickly.
Give us a list of what you have, and whether you want to keep the case or go for a high end new alternative. Then we will give it a good shot for you Mr G.
I can definitely vouch for Gigabyte, such great products. I made the switch from ASUS when doing this build and made a tonne of research. Both my mobo and gfx card are gigabyte (love windforce). I´m not saying that ASUS is bad though, i just thought what gigabyte offered seemed more appealing as a whole to me this time (quality, looks, price, estimated durability).
I'm not going for looks so the case I have can probably stay. I already mangled it with a hack saw and pliers so I could shoehorn the 5970 into it (no I am not exaggerating!) but it could probably do with more fans. I don't want to go down the water cooled route unless I really need to.
I have a 750w branded PSU but can't remember what it's called. I'm happy to keep that for now as it's still under warranty, although if a kick @ss CPU and GPU need more power then I'll consider a bigger one. Not too bothered about SLi even for future.
16GB DDR3 RAM 1866mhz, again happy to keep that as it's reasonably new and will save a couple of quid which could be spent on a decent GPU.
Will be keeping other silly stuff like DVD writer, sound card, wi-fi card and most likely the HDD too. If I can get a good SSD for a reasonable price I will, but if its only real benefit is Window's boot time I'll give it a miss as I don't tend to shut down my PC but rather just send it to sleep, plus it only takes about 30 seconds to reboot ATM which isn't the end of the world.
I won't over clock as I've never done so in the past and I've not yet managed to cook a PC and don't want the hassle. Call me superstitious if you like but you won't change my mind
So what I think I need: 1. Motherboard - I've had Gigabyte and Asus and have no preference towards either. 2. CPU - Must be Intel 3. GPU - Must be nVidia 4. SSD - but only if it makes a worthwhile difference to gaming. 5. Fans - don't know what size yet
Obviously the most expensive things will be CPU and GPU so I don't want one bottle necking the other too drastically. I basically just need something that will rip the @rse out of Assetto Corsa as best as I can but without going over budget.
As for building, well I've changed pretty much everything on my current rig with the exception of the mobo and CPU so unless there's something special about doing that (did I hear someone mention paste??) I think I'll manage.
That PSU would power a SLI Titans so don´t worry about it not being enough, and your new cpu will most likely consume less power than current one. The memory is still pretty much as good as you can get todate so it will do fine. I have 16gb and i run a pagefile in RAM no problemos so thats surely enough also.
1.I´d go for any pretty much any ASUS or Gigabyte in 100-150£ range. Basically these days almost any mobo is good for OC etc. What you pay for is extra features. So get one that has enough USB3 slots, Wifi, expand slots etc. whatever you think you might need.
2.i7 4770k first choice if you want to think of money then i5 4670k.
3.Anything from GTX770 and upwards. 780 should be reasonable priced now and optimal choice 780ti but costly. Oh yeah gtx680 is basically 770 (or other way around), they have similar architechture and performance, 770 wins by a little. One important thing is to get a card with a good cooler, such as gigabytes windforce.
4.GET A SSD!!! 120gb is fine for OS, good to keep "my documents" in other harddrive. I´d have one for my game installs too if i was rich but the point is that it will speed up nearly anything you do on your pc when you have OS SSD. They are not hugely expensive anymore. I payed 100e for mine 6months ago.
5.Whatever will fit your case. I would buy a case though, there are some very reasonably priced fully featured midi towers in the market. Costs pretty much the same as couple quality 140mm fans would cost.
Anyhow, just my thoughts. I´m sure Horus will come up with specific examples as he knows where to buy in uk.
EDIT:Let´s add if you really wanna kick AC in the balls then definitely 780ti, it will require shitloads of GPU power when maxed out..
After I spoke to horus when I wanted to do a new build for the cash I had spare this system hasn't let me down as of yet apart from my psu . I am running a AMD 4 core and a GTX650 gpu with a ASUS mother board cant say enough about the mb bloody brilliant the options it gives you for bios and the back up u get for monitoring is great .
with 1000 quid I am dreaming of the system I cud build , go for the self build it easy if I can do it any bugger can
Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others.
Groucho Marx (1890-1977)
must admit I travelled up to kircaldy to ask baz advice for installing cpu the first time , good lad to have on board but I am closer and to be honest as scott has said it like a jigsaw one part only goes in most cases in one place not that hard
Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others.
Groucho Marx (1890-1977)
So here goes. This would be my Intel selection, I have gone overboard with the Motherboard but hey it's your money and I think that will give you ample opportunity to put a few sticks of RAM in over time. The SSD is not the fastest but it ain't no slouch (still faster than any HDD by a couple of country miles).
Case = £84.95 Mobo = £332.39 CPU = £222 GPU = £229.99 SSD = £84.95
Equals £949.32 So enough for a bunch of flowers for the Misses.
Even though you said you don't like them this is my AMD selection as I have not used Intel since the mid nineties.
Case = £84.95 The inside of the same one for the intel selection. Mobo = £117.99 CPU = £239.88 GPU = £437.60 SSD = £79.99 Same as the intel but different perspective.
Equals £960.41. Again enough left for a new razor to remove that bum fluff from your face.
I should have said that with the AMD selection I went for the same Motherboard I have, as it is stable and has great bios features. You can even use your mouse to change the bios settings (never had that in any of my previous mobo's). I could not find a better mobo to chuck money at for the AMD, there are ones out there but hey that puppy does the trick.
I don't do intel Jarkko, so no need to do research on them. If they do coolio, but as shown by my choice you don't need the extra dvi/vga/hdmi connectors as they will be adding cost for something that will not be used. P.S. Not being snotty but would you want to run Assetto Corsa on an intel HD onboard graphics engine? Also I believe quite a few of the AMD CPU's do to, but the same question, why bother when we know we are going to add a proper GPU in the mix?
Do you think the onboard gpu in the intel/amd cpu is mainly for notebooks/tablets/cheap desktop/work stations more than gaming PC's? Also why have them on the cpu if you are not going to use them? Just an observation.
ehr i don´t know what you are on about anymore m8. Never ever i have intended to use that feature, it just happens to be a feature with every intel CPU nowadays. Maybe i´ll just kindly step back from the conversation.
you mean Im the only one with working spare old pc bits?
I have spare old cpu's spare mobo's for those spare cpu's PCI, AGP and PCIE GFX cards maybe even a VLB (VESA Loal Bus) PSU's, IDE HDD's (Never thrown a hard drive away, they know where the bodies are burried :-) )
Ok. Im from the generation that fixed stuff that was broken and doesnt throw anything away thats not broken.. Stuff really does come in handy, usually a couple of months after you chucked it away... YOU NEED IT.
And back to topic:
Without adding to the age old Intel vs AMD war.
You want the top Intel Chip = £800 Top AMD = £250 Approx
I too cant get on with AMD GFX.. Tried it.. they always seem to die just as the crawl out of warrenty. and AMD GFX driver is nasty
I've actually been talked out of buying a whole new rig for now, which is just as well because my car still hasn't sold (why do people expect things for nothing these days?). Looks like I'll be keeping it for the winter.
Instead I've been persuaded to replace my card with a GTX 760 4GB, which after being promised a 2-5 day delivery time from Amazon, still isn't with me 10 days later. If it's not here by tomorrow I will not be a happy chappy.
You must be one of the unluckiest people for this to happen from Amazon. I usually get stuff delivered days before their due date. The amount of times I have ordered with the free 3-5 days delivery and received it the next day is daft. Is it from one of the market places or from Amazon themselves, if it is Amazon (even if it isn't) write them a snotty email saying how you have missed hunting for that fantastic deal on Amazon and now you feel like going to Ebay instead, say that you had the day off in expectation of the delivery date being held to. They are usually very good with customer complaints and you could get a nice healthy discount, well they can afford to as they pay zero tax in the UK.
I've bought a few things from Amazon and never had an issue before now. I ordered it on Sunday 6th and when it hadn't arrived by Monday 14th I went onto live chat with them complaining that I could have had it cheaper from elsewhere with a longer delivery time. They just sent back a standard reply that sometimes deliveries take longer than expected blah blah blah and to wait until the 17th (today) and contact them then if it still hadn't arrived. There's no tracking on it for some reason and it's being delivered by Royal Mail, which explains why it's lost I suppose. Now I'll have to wait for a refund before I can order it elsewhere so God knows how long it will be before I get it!
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